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What Do You Think Of The Name Shilo -
Track 10 - Joe Roggen VS. Carlos Mancia
2006
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comedy feudjoke theftCarlos Mencia’s identityparallel thinkingfailed reconciliationjoe rogancarlos menciacomedyfeudplagiarismstand updave chappelle
The hosts try to broker peace between Joe Rogan and Carlos Mencia, but Rogan refuses and repeatedly accuses Mencia of stealing comedy material. Mencia argues that Rogan misrepresents his background, noting that his biography openly discusses his birth name and upbringing, and says Rogan has never clearly established which jokes he stole. Rogan answers with specific examples tied to Dave Chappelle, Bill Hicks, and a redneck routine, while dismissing claims of parallel thinking. He also recalls that he and Mencia were once friends, jokes that he would choke Mencia unconscious if attacked, and concludes that reconciliation serves no purpose.
What happened, in order
Rogan Rejects a Truce
Joe Rogan rejects the hosts’ attempt to reconcile him with Carlos Mencia, calling Mencia a thief who wants peace only because Rogan’s accusations are hurting him.
Mencia Answers Back
Carlos Mencia says Rogan’s attacks became exhausting and argues that his public biography already discloses the background and birth-name details Rogan portrays as hidden.
Competing Theft Claims
Mencia denies hiding his identity or stealing jokes, while Rogan counters with accusations involving material associated with Dave Chappelle, Paul Mooney, Richard Pryor, and Bill Hicks.
From Friends to Enemies
Rogan recalls that he and Mencia once worked out together, then says their friendship ended after he concluded that Mencia habitually took other comedians’ material.
The Chappelle Example
Rogan dismisses the idea that an apology would change anything and cites a pizza-delivery routine he says Mencia performed verbatim from Dave Chappelle.
Parallel Thinking Rejected
Rogan rejects Mencia’s parallel-thinking defense, points to a Jeff Foxworthy-style redneck line as another example, and refuses the hosts’ final push for friendship.
People mentioned
Joe RoganCarlos MenciaNed HolmanDave ChappellePaul MooneyRichard PryorBill Hicks
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We're talking to Joe Rogan and Joe, for a long time, Joe had the stuff up there and last time he was on we talked about the feud with Carlos Mencia and Carlos was on the show and would like to clear the air and like for you to, for you guys to not have any kind of a feud together. Of course he would. You know why he would? Because he's a thief and a scumbag. Now wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Awesome! Carlos, let me mend it for you guys. I would do it. Let me mend it, Carlos. If you could. I swear to God. Hey, man, I'm being completely honest with you, Carlos. I'm being totally sincere. I would like to get both of you guys on and clear it up and have it be over with. I would love that. We'll do it. Why does he want to be friends with me? He wants to be friends with me because I'm absolutely telling the truth and I'm crushing him everywhere all over the country. And you know why? Because he opened his stupid, fat, phony Mexican mouth and he talked about me. Uh-oh. Uh-oh.
You want to come on the show? Let me know, man. I'd love to have you on the show. That was the last actual conversation I had with them. And then I was in, what city was I in? I was in Tucson, and this DJ was like, oh, Joe Rogan. And it just got to the point where it pissed me off because I was like, you know, you don't have to help my career, dude. Really? I really don't care. Why do you got to go around just being all negative, dude? I'm tired of it. Then I started talking about, like, you know, that I thought, man, because like I said, I wish I knew. I wish I could do something or say something because it's like if you guys had gone to my website and read what it says, it says everything about me that this guy says that I'm trying to hide. And it's like, dude, just stop. Look, it's right there. That guy's not Mexican. He's got a fake name. His real name is Ned Holman. He's half German and half Honduras. God, I said it on...
I don't know how many specials. My birth name is Ned. I don't know what to say, man. So it's not anything that you're trying to hide or anything. No, no. And the funny thing is that he's like a lot of people assuming. I don't say that I'm Mexican. I mean, I talk about hanging out in Mexican hood. I talk about Mexicanism because my mom's Mexican. I grew up in East LA since I was seven months old. I talk about all that stuff. But yeah, I don't know. And then when the guy says that I'm a hack, that I steal stuff, and you go, well, what did he steal? He's never once said any joke that I stole. And I first started seeing it, and I was like, whoa. I go, that guy's doing Dave Chappelle's bit. He's doing Paul Mooney's bit. He's doing old Richard Pryor bits. You watch his old HBO special. He's doing bits straight off of a Bill Hicks CD. Verbatim. He does two bits from a Bill Hicks CD. He's constantly stealing material.
He always has. He's a messed up guy with a gigantic hole in his soul that needs to fill up with other people's attention and validation. And the way he does that is by being this minor bird and taking other people's material and pawning it off as his own. We were friends. Oh, so you know him personally? No, no, no. We were friends. We would go work out together. No way. Yeah. You know what? We used to be friends 11 years ago when I first moved to L.A. You know why? Because I didn't know he was a thief. Joe, I have a question. Like, you're a trained fighter, you know, and you're really good fighting. And you say it's not hate, it's reality, but you sound really fired up about it. Could this ever potentially come to blows? Okay, why would I hit him? I don't know. I'm just asking. He would have to take a swing at me first, and that would be a horrible mistake. Oh, but if he swung at you first, it would go down, you're saying? Oh, for sure. I would choke him unconscious. Oh, okay. He talks a lot of smack about me. One day somebody asked me, why do you think, you know, he's like this? And I said, I don't know, maybe it's jealousy. And then after that, jealousy? What are you talking about? But listen, go to my website, come and read my bio.
And if you hear what the guy has to say and you read the bio, you'll go... talking about. We're going to wrap up here in a second, but I can't let you go before we talk about the Mencia stuff. What is the point? I don't even want to talk about that guy anymore. I've been talking about this on a million different radio stations. Let's make you guys up. Let's get you guys fixed up. Let's put an end. He wants to. He wants to be friends. Do you know why he wants to? Because he takes a beating over and over again every time I talk about it because it's reality. If he called you on your cell phone or he wrote you an email and he said, listen, he goes... Between you and me, you're right about the stuff you say. I have taken a couple of liberties with a couple of people's jokes. It doesn't matter. He's going to keep doing it. He's not a funny guy. Dave Chappelle used to do this great bit about guys delivering pizza in bad neighborhoods. They have to kick down the door with a gun, holding the pizza, everybody on the floor. It was a really funny bit. I saw him do it verbatim. I'm like, wow, this guy's a thief.
So I brought it up to him, and he says exactly what all thieves said. I was doing that long before him, bro. I've been doing that a long time. You know, a lot of people heard about that, and it's a parallel thinking situation. No, it's not. No, no, it's not. Over and over again, he did You Might Be a Redneck. I saw him do You Might Be a Redneck. I saw him on stage say, if your family tree doesn't fork, maybe you're a redneck. I mean, he's just a tremendous minor bird. I'm getting the impression we're not going to make you guys friends today. What's the point? I don't need to be friends with everybody. You don't need to fix that. There's a lot of cool comedians out there. There's a lot of great comedy going on right now, and we should celebrate that.